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| God is all God no one before nor after He is the great I AM. |
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| God is in us around us,he is a name we call eternity,the cosmos,...................whys so big men |
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Location: Vancouver, Washington USA UMS student | "God" could not create a lesser than "God."
"God" could not create a greater than "God."
"God" could not create other than "God."
If "God" cannot create anything lesser than "God," because that is a logical impossibility, and "God" cannot create anything greater than "God," because
that is a logical impossibity, then what is the necessity for a "God" or a belief in a "God?"
I don't get it. (Don't boggle your mind on this.)
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Location: Central Florida | exactly where did these quotes come from as they appear to be quotes, Or is only God in quotes. |
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Location: Vancouver, Washington USA UMS student | Not relevant. |
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Location: Central Florida | God and Consciousness
In spiritual practice whole new levels of personal intelligence and wisdom are attained. When a certain point in spiritual practice is reached, the personal identification with the body and mind, become a generalized identification of self as universe. This is a matter of directly perceiving the unity of consciousness in all things, including the self. Upon reaching this stage of self-realization, artificial boundaries fall away. Nationalism and materialism are perceived as misguided. Thus in grasping the Truth of self as consciousness, we surpass all the conceptual barriers passed down through the generations of society. These have been imposed upon us by the accumulated thoughts of centuries, and are nothing more than learned behavior. With the knowledge of self-realization, it becomes very clear that the sufferings and joys of our fellow beings are ours to share. We experience each other via the unified field. Thus it is the wise who in fact, "love their neighbors as themselves".
the reader should note that terms "God", "Consciousness" and “soul”, (the true self) are completely synonymous.
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| Personally, I hesitate about using this term, ascription, or designation as much as i can nowadays.
It can open the door to so much misunderstanding, and be open to so much misinterpretation, that the true Essence becomes forgotten, overlooked |
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Location: Vancouver, Washington USA UMS student | And these terms, "God," "Consciousness," and "soul" are completely used in a non-relational way by people who use them.
They are "non-integratable (sp?)" Concepts of materialism and nationalism when premised correctly in the balance of man and
woman are completely in harmony with the natures of men and women; human beings proper. It is the wise who love their
neighbors with balanced wisdom, correct discernment, and judgments of "right" and "wrong." You cannot "blur" the body and the mind
into a universal oneness with everyone else. There is a "holographic" realization that we are all individual men and women
who can function in consentual (sp?) harmony together. But as long as we are living on earth, we will always need individual unalienable
rights to function as a volitional whole as best we can.
Peace,
Robert
Edited by Absolute Sovereigncy 9/15/2009 1:15 AM
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Location: Mental Egypt | I understand that God cannot create better than God. We ARE God, we just do not realize it and that automatically puts us lower than god. Perhaps it's because we are him/her.... together and not apart. When we feel separated, we lose that God feeling. But it's only an illusion. |
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Location: Central Florida | YES, God is consciousness, he created us with that conscoiusness, therefore we are also god (lower case). Thoughts become things. Gods thoughts create things in an ever expanding way. We are always becoming. |
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Location: Mental Egypt | Indeed and nicely put! |
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Location: Central Florida | Thanks, however I'm just telling it the way it is.
"Humanity, like all life, is the expression of Universal Intelligence. We are the product of the Universal Will to evolve, through the medium of living bodies. Life is conclusively not the result of purely random mathematical probabilities. It is the result of an intelligent universe that has Intent, and which is self aware. For this reason it is not reasonable to conclude that we are the sole intelligent creation, in a universe that is itself everywhere intelligent."
Again we are in a learning process, ever expanding our consciousness and becoming more in each life experience. |
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| Not that I ever wish to be disagreeable especially with friends, but I slightly balk at the 'intelligent' design motif
it gets very complicated, yet simple
It is all random, yet everything works to the most phenomenal pattern (eg, my oft used, ages back, examples of snowflakes, and bees)
'intelligence', for me, comes nowhere near to It  |
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Location: Central Florida | I am saying that the universe is not random thoughts by a loving consciousness. Although there are some animals who make me wonder (mosquito?). There is far more intelligent beings in the universe. I, while teaching biology always balked at intelligent design. Now I waiver, hanging out in the wind. Then again I taught Darwin. So....... |
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Location: Vancouver, Washington USA UMS student | Thats what unalienable rights and their correct understanding are all about. However that requires a correct understanding
of "property" without which there are no rights, just anarchy living in a sea of unspecific and undefined "oneness."
This has to be brought down to earth folks to understand it and integrate it. And the present moment.
Edited by Absolute Sovereigncy 9/17/2009 12:15 AM
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Location: Mental Egypt | Nothing has to be or be done for complete understanding of God....perfect and clear understanding can indeed be felt in billions of ways. It is describing it, that becomes complicated.
It's simple for me.... God is everywhere~ He is me, you, and everyone. We are not above, below, but equal.
No need to complicate it more. However; humans will... it's our nature, thinking it has to be so complex, when maybe just being, is being.
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| Well put, dear N |
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Location: Central Florida | AS nothing has to be brought down, All That Is is within you |
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Location: Vancouver, Washington USA UMS student | What is there to transcend? |
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| Transcendence |
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| I think to transcend the current mode of thinking in this world would be a noble cause. Obviously the way we’ve been thinking and feeling as a whole hasn’t been working on this planet (just watch the news). And isn’t that what we’re trying to do here. Transcend what hasn’t worked for at least 6000 years. |
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